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What's the line between satisfactory for you, the maker, and decent for the buyer?
I find it's always do difficult to price my own work. I mean, that selfish part inside of me wants to set the highest value possible, while the more modest (or maybe realistic) part insists that no one in their right mind would buy anything from me (who is pretty much a nobody in the art world) unless it was dirt cheap. Finding that happy medium between the two has caused me a lot of dissonance. The battle between the greedy and the modest is constantly changing, as one day I'm justifying a high price, while maybe an hour or so later, the value drops tenfold. I make coil baskets out of pine needles, and a moderately-sized piece could take ten hours or more to make, but once it's finished, I start to wonder whether it is visually worth the compilation of materials, and minimum wage+(?) for time required to put it together?
With practice, and putting in the hours, I know I'll improve both the speed and quality of the things that I am making. But at the present, a relatively small pine needle coil basket (about the size of an apple or orange, for comparison) will take me roughly between seven and ten hours to complete. At the minimum wage in california ($8.00 per hour), the basket the size of an orange could run something between $49 to $72(or maybe more, if I calculated for complexity, design, broken sewing needles, that huge ugly man-callous building on the side of my forefinger, ect). There are some people out there who would be willing to pay that much (or more) for something like that, but I think there are so many more who either cannot afford that, or would not put the personal value of a basket that high. after all, it's just a little basket right? And they could just go to the dollar tree and buy a wicker basket that would hold all their fruit, produce, or become an adorable bed for their toy poodle for just over a dollar.
I'm not writing this because I am having trouble selling baskets (at the moment, I've sold all the ones I've made to sell), but rather because I'm struggling to find that division between selling myself too short, and thinking too highly of my work to justify higher prices.
So this is where I'm asking you: if you sell your own art, how do YOU place a value on it?
Do you base it on the materials? Or design? Intricacy?
Or the time it takes to turn your raw materials into something beautiful or useful, or that makes a statement?
Do you take in account the wealth of your area? Of yourself? Of the people who are considering your work?
Do you look at the demand and availability of your particular craft? Or even what sets yours apart from what other people are doing?
... So I guess it still boils down to: what is your hour worth?
I find it's always do difficult to price my own work. I mean, that selfish part inside of me wants to set the highest value possible, while the more modest (or maybe realistic) part insists that no one in their right mind would buy anything from me (who is pretty much a nobody in the art world) unless it was dirt cheap. Finding that happy medium between the two has caused me a lot of dissonance. The battle between the greedy and the modest is constantly changing, as one day I'm justifying a high price, while maybe an hour or so later, the value drops tenfold. I make coil baskets out of pine needles, and a moderately-sized piece could take ten hours or more to make, but once it's finished, I start to wonder whether it is visually worth the compilation of materials, and minimum wage+(?) for time required to put it together?
With practice, and putting in the hours, I know I'll improve both the speed and quality of the things that I am making. But at the present, a relatively small pine needle coil basket (about the size of an apple or orange, for comparison) will take me roughly between seven and ten hours to complete. At the minimum wage in california ($8.00 per hour), the basket the size of an orange could run something between $49 to $72(or maybe more, if I calculated for complexity, design, broken sewing needles, that huge ugly man-callous building on the side of my forefinger, ect). There are some people out there who would be willing to pay that much (or more) for something like that, but I think there are so many more who either cannot afford that, or would not put the personal value of a basket that high. after all, it's just a little basket right? And they could just go to the dollar tree and buy a wicker basket that would hold all their fruit, produce, or become an adorable bed for their toy poodle for just over a dollar.
I'm not writing this because I am having trouble selling baskets (at the moment, I've sold all the ones I've made to sell), but rather because I'm struggling to find that division between selling myself too short, and thinking too highly of my work to justify higher prices.
So this is where I'm asking you: if you sell your own art, how do YOU place a value on it?
Do you base it on the materials? Or design? Intricacy?
Or the time it takes to turn your raw materials into something beautiful or useful, or that makes a statement?
Do you take in account the wealth of your area? Of yourself? Of the people who are considering your work?
Do you look at the demand and availability of your particular craft? Or even what sets yours apart from what other people are doing?
... So I guess it still boils down to: what is your hour worth?
NEW SCANNER! :D
It's so beautiful. All black and sleek, and the scanner part is sized for legal paper, so it's larger than just regular printer paper. I can now use (some of) my oddly shaped art-papers that I used to have to fold, scrunch, and fudge on my old scanner! :D Ah, I'm so excited. It's so very tempting to just scan everything I own and upload it all in one disorganized mass of junk, and spend several hours pushing the touchscreen buttons and making paper piles. But I don't think you'd all particularly enjoy that... I think I'll just limit myself to a couple of images...
No longer will you have to suffer with blurry, grainy, unclear cell phone pic
D: Just a Forewarning
My scanner recently decided that it didn't want to save scans on my thumb-drive anymore, so... the resolution of my newer deviations are gonna suck, seeing as I don't have a functioning digital camera either...
Yeah... technology hates me... >.
Thinking of trying something new
I've been sorta thinking of trying something new when I get a little more free time. Most likely winter break. I was thinking of maybe trying out sculpey or Fimo clay, or something along those lines. But fer my first project, I'm not entirely sure what I wanna make (probably not a tree though -too many wire supports) What do you guys think I should try my hand at sculpting? :la:
I also wanna make a leather bound sketchbook, and a set of bamboo arrows...
-There's just so much I wanna do... D:
Feathery Stuffs for School :D
I dunno if anyone's interested, but I've been makin' a whole menagerie of feathery stuffs to pay for my tuition and textbook costs. I'm going to CSUSB for now, and am a bio major -and hoping to transfer in a few years to pursue micro and marine biology, to eventually work in the field. So needless to say, I'll be in school for a while.
I've been making everything from earrings, to bracelets, to chokers, to hat bands, so if anyone's relatively interested, let me know, and I'll post a couple of pictures to give you an idea of what I've got. I'm also very willing to do custom orders, so dun be shy if you don't see what you want, or have somethi
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I think I've commented on your baskets before...about how awesome they are and about how you should charge a lot for them....and now I found this journal on your homepage because you donated a prize to a contest I'm entering, and I thought of another comment.
I think what will help with your pricing the most is if you look up articles and blog posts about art and "perceived worth". For example, an original painting sold off a street corner would go for maybe $50, but the exact same painting showcased in a gallery by a snobby-looking artist would go for $5000 or more.
You don't have a gallery, and you probably don't want to become a snob, but there are other ways to present your work in the best possible way. In 2+ years, I went from branding myself as "I just started out making jewelry. Does somebody want to buy my work, maybe?" to branding myself as "Using wire and small objects, I give form to imagination and daydreams." (Just thought of that one yesterday! )
Find your message. Tell your story. I think those are the most important things you can do for the percieved worth of your work. (From the little I've seen of your work, I'm noticing a woodsy nature-dweller theme.)
Oh, one more thing! I just saw that someone commented that said you should haggle, and I've heard that's a really bad idea!
What can happen is that you tell the indecisive person, "You can have that for $10 less," and they still say no and walk away. And now all the other people in earshot are not only mentally deducting $10 from all of your prices, but they're planning on haggling you down for more because that other person didn't seem to want it at only $10 off. (And then if they ever buy from you again, they'll want those pieces discounted too, of course.)
I think what will help with your pricing the most is if you look up articles and blog posts about art and "perceived worth". For example, an original painting sold off a street corner would go for maybe $50, but the exact same painting showcased in a gallery by a snobby-looking artist would go for $5000 or more.
You don't have a gallery, and you probably don't want to become a snob, but there are other ways to present your work in the best possible way. In 2+ years, I went from branding myself as "I just started out making jewelry. Does somebody want to buy my work, maybe?" to branding myself as "Using wire and small objects, I give form to imagination and daydreams." (Just thought of that one yesterday! )
Find your message. Tell your story. I think those are the most important things you can do for the percieved worth of your work. (From the little I've seen of your work, I'm noticing a woodsy nature-dweller theme.)
Oh, one more thing! I just saw that someone commented that said you should haggle, and I've heard that's a really bad idea!
What can happen is that you tell the indecisive person, "You can have that for $10 less," and they still say no and walk away. And now all the other people in earshot are not only mentally deducting $10 from all of your prices, but they're planning on haggling you down for more because that other person didn't seem to want it at only $10 off. (And then if they ever buy from you again, they'll want those pieces discounted too, of course.)